2010 Races, Commentary, Video

October 6, 2010

Hyattsville CX Course Preview

Bill Schieken

Hyattsville CX, the fourth race in the BikeReg.com MABRAcross Series, takes place October 10 at Magruder Park in Hyattsville, Md. 2010HyattsvilleCX_PosterThis race features flat power sections broken up by fun technical sectors. The City of Hyattsville is 100 percent behind this race so the atmosphere and amenities are top notch. Bleacher seating, indoor restrooms, moonbounce and playground, huge parking lot adjacent to the course. And it’s all 10 minutes from downtown DC.

Sounds great, right? So what are you waiting for? It’s not too late to register (you have until tomorrow at midnight), so go do it now.

For those that did the race last year there are a couple changes discussed in the course preview video. For those that are new to the venue, get prepared for no hills, two dismounts, and some good fast ‘cross racing.

Thanks for watching and see you Sunday.

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18 thoughts on “Hyattsville CX Course Preview”

  1. Can you elaborate on ‘no turns in the sand’? I’ve reviewed the USAC rules several times (planning for Rockburn) and I don’t see that. It might be an issue for UCI.

  2. Mike-I looked again at the rules last night and I think you are right. I was told by an official that it may be an issue but I should have double-checked before doing the commentary. Still up for debate if we will have the sand at Hyattsville.

  5. HAY YOU DUMBIE I PRETTY SURE THE NO TURNS FOR SAND IS FOR A NOT NATRUAL SAND. THE SANDS THAT IS ALWAYS THERE ARE NATURAL SAND SO YOU CAN MAKE TURNS IN THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE A NATRUAL OBTSACLE DONT YOU HAVE ANY READING COMPREHENSION AT ALL OR DO YOU SUCK AT MORE THAN JUST RIFING A BIKE?

  6. I’ve read chapter 5 of the USAC rules 3 times now, and I see no mention of turns as they relate to sand. Any thoughts on where else to look? Also, please be sure to reply in all caps, because I am hard of hearing.

  7. HI MIKE I AM GLAD YOU ARE ASK THIS.

    IF YOU READ THE CROSS HAIR AS I DO AND REMEMBER ALL OF THE THINGS EVER, YOU WILL KNOW THAT THE BILL ONCE POSTED NEW RULES ABOUT THE CLYCOCROSSING. I WILL DO THE NEEDFUL AND MAKE COPY HERE, BUT READ FOR YOURSELF AT THIS ULR: http://www.cxhairs.com/2010/08/12/usa-cycling-announces-cyclocross-rule-changes/

    THE EXACT WHAT I REFER TO IS COPY HERE:
    The ban on artificial sand was removed and replaced with specifications that if you have artificial sand, it must be 40-80 meters long, straight, and have no lip up or down to access it.

    NOW, IF YOU CAN KNOW THE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS USING SIMPLE LOGICS, YOU WILL SEE THAT TURN IN SANDS IS ALLWAYS ALLOW EXCEPT FOR IF THE SAND IS NOT A NATURAL SAND, SUCH AS AT THE UBRAN CROSS WHERE THEY PUT SAND ON TOP CONCRETE. THIS IS NOT ALLOW TURNING, BUT A NATURAL SAND HAS ALWAYS BEN ALLOWED A TURNING IN IT. DOES THIS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR NO? DO YOU NEED ME TO MORE EXPLAN?

  9. Your explanation is nonpareil good sir, and you have contributed in a variety of ways to the cyclocross community. If you happen to have a reference to the specific USAC rule/section, it would be appreciated since I do not believe cxhairs.com is (yet) a sanctioning body. But it the mean time, I can certainly make use of what you have provided.

  10. OH IM SO SORRY I DIDNT MEAN TO AFFEND YOU MISTER ROLLEUR PLEASE ADVICE ON HOW I CAN MAKE YOU MORE BETTER, THANK.

  11. OK HI YES THANK FOR YOUR QUESTION. I GUESS YOU DONT HAVE A GOOGLE ON YOUR COMPUTER DO YOU USE THE BING BROWSER?

    SO IF YOU MAKE A SEARCH ABOUT USA CYCLUING RULES FOR THE CYCLORCROSS, YOU CAN FIND THIS PAGE:
    http://www.usacycling.org/news/user/story.php?id=5042

    THIS PAGE IS ONE THAT HAS RULE MODIFICATIONS FOR THE CYCLOCROSSES. AND ON THIS PAGE YOU WILL SEE THAT THE UCI MAKES A RULE CHANGE NUMBER SIX THAT SAYS:
    6) Man-made sand pits are now allowed and the dimensions for them have been established.

    NOW, I HAVE EVEN DONE THE NEEDFUL AND FOUND WHAT THE UCI SAYS ABOUT THE MEN MADE SAND PITHS AND MAKE A COPY BELOW:
    Rule 5.1.023 now reads:

    The course may include no more than six man made obstacles. Obstacle shall mean any part of the course which is likely to require riders to dismount.

    The length of an obstacle may not exceed 80 metres and the height may not exceed 40 cm. The total length of obstacles may not exceed 10% of the course.

    Non-natural sand pits should be minimum 40 metres, maximum 80 metres long and minimum 6 metres wide. The sand pit should be located on a straight section and requests a level entrance and exit.

    SO NOW PLEASE, UNTERSTAND THAT USACYCLYNG RULES ARE BASED UPON UCI RULES, AND THEREFORE NOW THIS RULE IS ONLY MAKE AFFECT ON NOT NATURAL SAND PITS.

    WOW NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU LOOK SO DUMB MAYBYE JUST DO A LITTLE GOOGLES AND FIND SOME INFORMATION WITHOUT HAVING TO AKSK ME.

    UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO ASK ME ABOUT THE CYCLOCROSSES BUT I AM JUST HEAR FOR TO HECKLE. UNLESS MAYBE IF YOU ASK NICELY I CAN TELL YOU SOME MORE THINGS THAT YOU WILL NEED TO KNOW.

    ENJOY PLEASE,
    ANON

  14. OK HI YES UCI AND USA CYCLING ARE TWO SEPERATE BODIES BUT USA CYCLING RULES FALLS IN LINE WITH UCI RULES. USA CYCLING HAS NO RULE ABOUT TURNINGS IN SAND PITHS, AND UCI ALLOWS IT. USE YOUR BEST LOGICS TO NOW KNOW THAT USA CYCLING ALLOWS RULES IN ALL NATURALS SAND PITS.

    I DONT FIND THIS CONCLUSION VERY HARD TO JUMP TO. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO ANY CYCLOCROSSING EVER? OR WATCHED SOME ON THE TVS? UCI RACES HAVE MUCH TURNING IN NATURAL SANDS. THIS IS NOT AGAINST ANY RULES AND ALL OFF THE RULE CHANGE THAT SPARKED THIS DEBATE WERE REFERENCE ARTIFICIAL SAND PITT. PLEASE DO YOU UNTERSTAND NOW?

    IF YOU WANT A VAN DIAGRAM I CAN DRAW YOU ONE. MAYBE YOU ARE VISUAL LEARNER BECAUSE YOU CANT HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE READING INSTRUCTOR IN YOUR LIFE?

    I AM APOLOGIZE, I DONT MEAN TO AFFEND, REALLY I JUST WANT TO MAKE HECKLES AT HOW MUCH BILL SUCK AND FALLS DOWN TO DISSAPOINT COUCH MAYHEW AND TILLY.

  15. I know at Charm City (UCI) the officials weren’t super happy about the turn around the sand pits. (The turn was technically on the grass and not in the 2 sand pits). They wanted the course to be straight on the sand with no turns. So for UCI it certainly matters. But as noted USA cycling is a different beast.

    The discussion also brings up the definition of what a natural sand pit is vs man made. There’s nothing natural about sand in a park. Is the definition pertaining to what’s existing at the premise before & after you hold a race?

  16. IT IS OF MY BELIEFS THAT IF A SAND IS THERE FOR ALL OF THE TIMES AND NOT JUST FOR THE RACE THAT IT IS A NATURAL SANDS.

    FOR IN AN EXAMPLE, LET US LOOK AT THE CHARM CITY CYCLOCROSS.

    THE UCI LIMITS A MAN MADE OBSTACLES TO SIX IN A COURSE.

    NOW I WILL DO AN INVESTIGATIONS FOR THIS BUT I AM PRETTY SURE I AM RIGHT BECAUSE IT JUST MAKE SENSE.

    CHARM CITY HAS TWO YELLOW BARRIERS, 3 “STEPP” MAKE OF BARRIERS, TWO SAND PIT, AND THE TALL TREE BARRIER. NOW, SINCE TALL TREE BARRIER IS ALWAYS THERE ALL THE TIMES, AND SAND PITHS IS ALWAYS THERE ALL THE TIMES, THESE IS NOT A MAN MAKE OBSTACLES, SO THEY ARE NOT IN THE TOTAL OF SIX, SO THAT IS HOW THAT ONE HAS SO MANY OF OBSTACLES ON THE COURSE.

    IF IT ALWAYS IS TO BE THERE, IT IS NATURAL. IF YOU HAVE TO MAKE FOR THE RACE, IT IS A MAN MAKE.

    CORRECT? I THINK YES, WILL COME BACK IN A FEW HOURS SO FOR TO EAT LUNCH AND MAKE INVESTIGATIONS.

  17. OK I INVESTIGATE ALREDY AND I AM WRONG ON A TWO BARRIERS IN ROW. THAT IS ONE OBSTACLE.

    BUT I AM STILL THINK CORRECT ABOUT MAN MAKE AGAINST NATURAL OBSTACLES BY DEFINITION. MORE TO COME IN LATER.

    ENJOY PLEASE.

  18. By all means, yes. A Van Diagram would be most welcome. I’m starting to think a sandpit spiral-of-death might be doable as well…

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